08.08.2017

Beatrice Tourou: “Women and men are not the same, even if society is trying to make us believe we are”

Beatrice Tourou, a young female entrepreneur, shares her personal struggles and ideas from founding the tech startup Boulesse.
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BOULESSE.com is the online luxury marketplace where manufacturers with products of highest quality come together. From handcrafted shoes to high end furniture, Boulesse has it all. Beatrice Tourou saw an opportunity in the Viennese market, when she noticed the number of traditional luxury Viennese shops that people traveled across the world to come visit. In part due to their old heritage, most of these shops had not taken the plunge into the world of E-commerce due to fast changing technological developments. Thus, Tourou decided to bring these shops together onto one platform, and provide each shop with its unique and personalised E-Shop, and thereby also making their exquisite products available around the globe.

Where did the idea of Boulesse come from?

I used to work as a fashion editor at the Financial Times in Germany and spent quite some time dealing with topics such as lifestyle, and thus also came in contact with countless stores. This is where I learnt that a number of shops in Vienna didn’t have their own E-Shop. I approached some of them and asked why this was. At the time it was already 2014, the trend for most shops to go online had already started. Their response was that they didn’t have the resources for it, nor were they big enough to cope with the challenges. This led me to the idea of creating a platform, a so called online marketplace, that would enable to group all these shops together with their own E-Shop.

What were the key challenges when starting your own business?

The biggest challenge is of course finding enough funding to start, as well as keep the company going. Finding the right people to set up the team was also an unexpected challenge. It was also a struggle to get coders on board who were genuinely interested in E-Commerce, especially because of the startup trend waves. At the time, E-Comerce wasn’t as hot of a topic as it used to be. The hot topics having transitioned to VR (virtual reality) and fintech, which made it more difficult to find programmers that were willing to invest their time and energy into an E-Commerce platform. I sadly missed the time span where people were throwing money at E-Commerce, so maybe we were a bit late. However, for these shops we weren’t, as they were all still quite behind on the whole tech aspect of their business.

Do you think the company would have evolved differently had you founded it somewhere other than Vienna?

The thing is, there are no pros without cons, and no cons without pros. It was obviously cheaper and easier perhaps to win the Austrian market as they weren’t fully established online yet. For exactly that reason, Vienna works because of its lack in tech development, which in turn allowed us to take advantage and create the platform itself. However, we started with too little funding, and it probably could have been easier to raise more money in a more tech centered city. London for example.
It is a tricky question, and one I have asked myself before. The key is to adjust your business idea to the public that you are trying to address and involve.

 Would you be ready or wish to start another company?

No, definitely not. It takes a lot of strength, effort and power to start a business from scratch, and I think I used up all my power for this lifetime. For this type of a business you really have to pour all your heart and soul into it, work late and on the weekends. Physically you can do that for a couple of years, but then you start to feel the strength and energy diminishing. I don’t think I would be able to repeat everything I did and worked so hard for. Building a startup is different from a nine to six job, you have to devote all your spare time and extra energy into it. I have of course learnt a lot.
Trying for a second time would be easier however, due to all the experience I have gathered. For example, if I decided to create another business, I wouldn’t do anything where I needed to depend on investors. I would create something on my own. A business where things can grow slowly and steadily. In this case there would be less pressure for me to deliver as well as have the success of the other’s investment on my conscience.

Where did your strength and courage stem from to set up your own business?

I am quite a disciplined person. When I decide upon something, I put all my energy and will into pursuing it. Seeing as it wasn’t only my money involved but also the money of other people. I thus pushed myself to work a lot harder and use their funding to succeed. I took the fact very seriously that there were others involved and their money was at stake. This gives you an extra boost to take your work seriously and to push yourself just that bit more.

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When faced with your biggest challenge, how did you overcome it?

What you learn from leading this type of a business is that even if you are really scared, and you don’t want to face the struggles, you have to get through it either way. You have two choices, either you run away, and your business closes down the next day, or you face your anxieties and struggles. For me there were a number of unpleasant challenges I had to face. To which I quickly realised you really just have to suck it up, persevere and push forward. That is the thing about startups. It’s not easy facing the harsh reality of its making, but you need to get through it.

Now onto more controversial topics, do you think any aspects of your business might have differed had you been a male entrepreneur?

I probably would be more aggressive concerning the financial aspects of the company. I personally am a little bit more cautious when it comes to spending. However, I must say I am not a big fan of this whole gender separation topic. I think men and women have their separate advantages and disadvantages. In the end it comes down to how you play your cards. I have never felt that anyone has treated me differently in the business sector because I am a blonde woman, nor that someone didn’t take me seriously for that reason. Yes, I have been in situations where men have used harsh tones towards me, however they would have acted the same towards any other man.
It is true yes, looking at the Pioneers Festival for example, most of the people there are men. This may be because you usually begin to create your own business after you’ve had sufficient years of experience, after you have created a network of potential investors. This is most often when you are in your thirties. Around that time however, women begin to have children and decide to take a step back from their career line. During that time most women will be placing their energy in creating a family rather than pushing for the success of a business. Its is the woman that has the responsibility to carry the child, so it makes sense that they are the ones to take a step back when deciding what to do with their future career. I think this is one of the biggest explanations to why there are so few female founders / CEO’s.

What aspects, if any, of your business do you think might have differed had you been a male entrepreneur?

I don’t think there would be any striking differences. The only big difference is that now I am in my thirties and I am thinking of starting a family and will have to transition my energy into focusing on my children for the time being. A man does have that on his mind as he also has to sustain and support a family, but this only gives him even more of a boost to keep pushing his career forward. The group of women that wish to have children just have a different mind set than men do. It is a simple equation.
One has to take biology into account. The older a woman gets, the more difficult she has it to get pregnant. Of course stress and health are a large factor that contribute to being able to get pregnant sooner. Men don’t have this aspect to keep in mind, so naturally they have a larger chance of being able to place more energy into sustaining a business. It is also difficult for men not being able to carry around a child for nine months and develop the connection all mothers have. There are downsides for both men and women.

Do you think one gender has more of an advantage over the other?

Women and men are not the same, even if society is trying to make us believe that we are. I think that there are some qualities that women have which are more enhanced. For example, you may be more into building a team, making people cooperate, maybe be more intuitive about issues, or even more cautious. Men can be more into driving a team, getting a proper performance out of the members, as some say, they push the pedal to the metal. This is sometimes needed to really get a business going. So again there is nothing wrong or right about either of the two methods, it just depends on the business as well as the situation.

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Ist die aktuelle wirtschaftliche Situation wirklich so dramatisch? Und was braucht es jetzt, damit Österreich und die EU wirtschaftlich wieder nach vorne kommen? Storebox-Co-Founder Johannes Braith im Interview.
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Ist die aktuelle wirtschaftliche Situation wirklich so dramatisch? Und was braucht es jetzt, damit Österreich und die EU wirtschaftlich wieder nach vorne kommen? Storebox-Co-Founder Johannes Braith im Interview.
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Storebox-CEO und Cofounder Johannes Braith
Storebox-CEO und Cofounder Johannes Braith | Foto: brutkasten

Die neue EU-Kommission steht. Hierzulande laufen dagegen nach wie vor die Regierungsverhandlungen zwischen ÖVP, SPÖ und NEOS mit ungewissem Ausgang. Währenddessen kommt nicht nur Österreich nicht aus der Rezession heraus und auch die Prognosen bleiben tendenziell negativ. Begleitet wird das Szenario von einer Häufung an dramatischen Appellen und Forderungen nach umfassenden Änderungen in der Wirtschaftspolitik.

Wie steht es wirklich um Österreich und die EU? Was sind nun die drängendsten Maßnahmen? brutkasten geht diesen Fragen gemeinsam mit führenden Köpfen der heimischen Innovationsszene nach.

Storebox-Co-Founder und -CEO Johannes Braith sieht im brutkasten-Interview auch Chancen, die die Krise biete, formuliert aber konkrete Maßnahmen, die dazu nun auf politischer Seite ergriffen werden müssten.


brutkasten: Düstere Prognosen und drastische Appelle stehen aktuell in der Wirtschaftsberichterstattung an der Tagesordnung. Wie beurteilst Du die Situation? Ist sie wirklich so dramatisch?

Johannes Braith: Ich beobachte die Großwetterlage natürlich laufend. Allerdings halte ich es für gut, wenn man sich in seinen daily Operations als Founder nicht zwangsläufig beunruhigen lässt. Gerade Startups sind es gewohnt Krisen zu managen bzw. mit ihnen umzugehen. In manchen Fällen kann dadurch sogar etwas Positives entstehen. Denn Krisen erzwingen oft Veränderungen, welche wiederum oft Chancen beinhalten.

Aber natürlich finde ich es beunruhigend, dass wir, was unsere Wettbewerbsfähigkeit in Europa angeht, so dramatisch den Anschluss verlieren. Ich hoffe, dass der steigende Schmerz dazu führt Regulierungen abzubauen und ein neues Selbstverständnis hinsichtlich Wirtschaft, Startups und Technologie einkehrt.

Welche gesamtwirtschaftlichen Maßnahmen sollten in Österreich möglichst schnell umgesetzt werden? Was muss unbedingt ins Regierungsprogramm?

Das Thema ist leider ziemlich mühsam, da sehr, sehr gute Vorschläge seit langer Zeit am Tisch liegen, die allerdings nicht umgesetzt wurden. Ein wichtiger Punkt ist es bestimmt, Risikokapitalgeber zu incentivieren – Stichwort Beteiligungsfreibetrag.

Noch wichtiger wäre es allerdings die Steuern auf Arbeit deutlich zu reduzieren. Wir sind in einer Zeit, in der wir die Extrameile gehen müssen. Das sollte auch belohnt werden. Man könnte z.B. Überstunden steuerlich freistellen, Pensionisten incentivieren, wenn sie in der Rente arbeiten möchten – eventuell gänzlich steuerfrei, oder man kann über Modelle nachdenken, mit denen man Vollzeitarbeit nicht nur ermöglicht (Kinderbetreuung) sondern eventuell auch belohnt.

Generell stelle ich mir die Frage, wie Menschen den Sinn in ihrer beruflichen Tätigkeit wieder zurückerlangen können. In vielen Gesprächen und Beobachtungen sehe ich, dass die Leistungebereitschaft extrem abgenommen hat. Ob das immer durch politische Maßnahmen geheilt werden kann, bezweifle ich. Ich halte viel von Selbstbestimmung und Eigenverantwortung.

Und was sollte die neue EU-Kommission unbedingt sofort angehen?

Regulierung massiv abbauen. Ich bin mit Storebox mittlerweile in sechs Ländern und mehr als 200 Städten operativ tätig. Es kann ja nicht sein, dass wir gefühlt hunderte unterschiedliche Regulierungen vorfinden, die das Prosperieren von Unternhemen extrem erschweren.

Was wären konkret für euch als Scaleup die wichtigsten Schritte auf nationaler und EU-Ebene?

Die Lohnkosten senken, Regulierungen massiv reduzieren und die Zuwanderung hochqualifizierter Personen massiv erleichtern.

Was bräuchte es, damit die Wiener Börse bzw. zumindest eine europäische Börse für einen IPO eines Scaleups wie Storebox attraktiv ist?

Große Anschlussfinanzierungen müssen in Europa mit europäischem Kapital getätigt werden, um ab einer gewissen Stage als logischen Schritt einen IPO auch in einem europäischen Heimatmarkt zu forcieren.

Aktuell wird nicht nur im Zusammenhang mit Börsengängen die Standortattraktivität stark diskutiert. War Abwanderung aus Europa für euch jemals ein Thema?

Aktuell noch nicht. Ich lebe sehr gerne in Österreich und sehe nicht alles nur negativ. Wir leben in einem tollen Land mit vielen Möglichkeiten, toller Infrastruktur und einigermaßen stabilen Verhältnissen. Die Verwaltung dieses Zustands wird allerdings nicht ausreichen. Es muss gestaltet werden, um den Standort attraktiv zu halten.

Bitte eine Prognose: Abhängig von den Entscheidungen, die in nächster Zeit getroffen werden – was ist das Worst- und was das Best-Case-Szenario für Europa?

Das Worst-Case-Szenario: Die EU zerfällt in unterschiedliche Lager, weil es nicht möglich war, Interessen zu alignen und die großen Hebel zu betätigen. Geopolitisch wäre das eine absolute Katastrophe!

Das Best-Case-Szenario: Die Wettbewerbsfähigkeit wird durch radikale Maßnahmen wieder hergestellt. Die Menschen spüren eine deutliche Entlastung, haben Perspektiven und glauben an eine bessere Zukunft. Europa wächst weiter zusammen und bleibt ein starker und wichtiger globaler Player.

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